In this, their thirty-first episode, Jesse and Rian discuss:
- Why the episode is late this week
- Shaping young minds
- Saying goodbye to George Carlin
- How Rian spent his weekend while Jesse was getting in touch with nature
- The (Mopey) Munoz Sports Minute
- Early predictions for The Green Hornet starring Seth Rogen
- A brief aside concerning Ghostbuster comic books both old & new
- M. Night Shayamalan's involvement in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
- Fingers crossed for Spiderman 4
- Anticipation for Quentin Tarantino's Inglorious Bastards
- Jonah Hex starring Thomas Jane?
- Schwarzenegger & Stallone are teaming up for what?!
- The AFI: American Film Institute or Amazingly Foolish Individuals?
- What Jesse and Rian have been watching lately
- Continuing the Hulk debate: Ang Lee versus Louis Leterrier
- The Happening: A step up or a step down for M. Night Shayamalan?
- What comic books Rian and Jesse have been reading
- Signing off on Y: The Last Man with the release of the 10th and final trade paperback collection
- Our respective lists of The Top 5 Fight Scenes in Movies
- Getting rich off of the rapture
...and multiple other topics. Come along, won't you, as Jesse and Rian get Sidetracked.
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...It Also Most Likely Contains Some Spoilers
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Episode 31 Song List:
No Woman No Cry - Bob Marley
Go and Be - Audio Adrenaline
So Much For the Afterglow - Everclear
Song Cry - Jay Z
Take a Bow - Muse
Ava Adore - Smashing Pumpkins
All Mixed Up - 311
How I Could Just Kill A Man - Rage Against the Machine
Save Me - Queen
Chick Magnet - MxPx
I Feel it All - Feist
I Alone - Live
165 Million Plus Interest/The Round Up - Ocean's 12 Soundtrack
Passion's Killing Floor - HIM
Angel - Massive Attack
Vampire - Antsy Pants
Fake Plastic Trees - Radiohead
On Your Own - Blur
Psychology - Dead Prez
Deeper Underground - Jamiroquai
Steam Machine - Daft Punk
High Hopes - Pink Floyd
Bicycle - Plankeye
You Be 'Illin - Run DMC
The Sound of Failure - The Flaming Lips
Superstition - Stevie Wonder
***OOPS - The actress who played "the pregnant woman" in The Way Of The Gun is Juliette Lewis, which Rian really should be able to remember by now.
I'm breaking my self-imposed "no commenting" embargo because you guys sounded so desperate for some feedback. I'm not going to argue irrational points or anything, I'm just going to say a few things and then list some movies.
ReplyDelete1. I miss George Carlin already. I only own one album of his, Complaints & Grievances. In it he has a bit where he knocks the 10 Commandments down to 2. One of my favorite quotes on it is when he's ranting about dudes with pussy names, like "Tyler" and "Todd" and "TUCKER." The quote itself is "Fuck Tucker. Tucker sucks." I just love that, and especially how George Carlin says it.
Plus, this was the first album he recorded after 9/11, which he addresses at the beginning. He touches on something that I didn't realize he and I had in common- our birthplace. New York City, New York County, New York State. A lot of people can say that, of course, but since I've never really lived in New York and always felt it calling to me, only to wind up in fucking Jersey, I really appreciate Carlin's accent and humor, and if I lived in New York, I would want him living next door to me and we'd bitch about stuff. It'd be awesome. So R.I.P. George.
2. I'm sure you know by now but Jonah Hex/Thomas Jane has been debunked.
3. The HULK debate is interesting, kinda, but not really. I understand that it's a big compare/contrast kind of thing. But as a whole it's "Hmm. Which movie screwed up the MESSAGE of the HULK less?" And the answer to that is it's about equal. Of course IMO, Ang Lee's had a much better Ahab hunting the White Whale quality, although not perfect. 'Incredible' had a nice fugitive on the run bit, a better bruce banner, and a cool campus fight scene. But I honestly felt that Ang Lee's HULK had much more to be angry about. Edward Norton's Banner got more panicked than angry, EVERY TIME.
In the end, I feel that the HULK's struggle is this: Everyone has a darkside. EVERYONE. We try and keep it supressed, but we'll say snotty things or piss someone off because we know we can (Rian, you know what I'm talking about here), and we're not behaving like good people. But when we let our darkside take control we don't destroy tanks or punch rockets or steal fat dead men's pants. Bruce Banner has to worry about all those things. Imagine if you're in bumper to bumper traffic, and some asshole cuts you off. You're pissed and you honk your horn. The dude flips you off, or even worse, because nobody's moving, it escalates and the dude gets out of the car and is screaming at you. That would be intense for us, and we would hope it wouldn't involve a physical altercation. But with Banner, that one instant he would need to worry about losing control, seriously injuring or KILLING that asshole, as well as turning over at least 70 other cars and causing mayhem as the HULK flees the scene, getting angrier and angrier as everyone shrieks at him. The HULK needs crowds and crowds of people screaming in terror at him at all times.
THEN you bring in the military and THUNDERBOLT ROSS and you got the whole Moby Dick pursuit thing. Ross isn't a two-dimensional badguy. And if he came in this way it would be clear that he's trying to protect the public. Hulk doesn't need to fight giant brutes all the time. Hulk fighting Absorbing Dad and the Abomination were the most blasé parts of those movies for me. However, The Hulk in San Fran? Awesome. The Hulk on campus? Awesome. The Hulk in Nevada? Awesome. The Hulk touring a soda factory? Awesome. Nobody liked the Hulk dogs, I did, but really, they fall into the 'Hulk fights something big and it's kinda dumb' category, and that's the point I'm making. Yeah, the dogs are dumb, but c'mon, he breks a pitbull's jaws by flexing his deltoid. That's really badass.
This is a long Hulk spiel, so I'll just say this: Ang Lee's film had fantastic editing, Elfman's score was a departure from his norm and it was great, and once Hulk was onscreen it was pulse-pounding. The movie should have ended when he turned back to normal in San Fran. Nick Nolte did a great job with his role, but it was an unnecessary one, so he became the most distracting part of the film for me. No other actor in the film did as good a job with their roles as Nick Nolte. It's just unfortunate that his role just muddied the film. But then again, it did contribute to why the Hulk's so ANGRY.
Incredible was good, it hit a lot of good marks for me, my favorite part was when Tim Roth got wrapped around that tree (and everything directly before ti, have I said that campus scene was cool?). The antagonists were pretty 2-dimensional though and theonly thing I can remember of the final fight was Hulk strangling A-Bomb with a chain and clapping. It wasn't that memorable. I remeber those two parts because I liked the Hulk Clap, I disliked the chain bit. The End.
4. I didn't listen to the whole Y: The Last Man bit, because I've only read up to Vol. 6. When you guys have a lengthy discussion on big cool things like this, I would like to suggest that maybe you could put a minute/second marker in your notes on the main page for where we should fast forward to so we can resume listening without risking hearing some spoiler? Just a thought.
5. Top Five Fight Scenes:
First off, 'Elle' is pronounced 'El.' When Darryl Hannah was first told her character's name by Quentin she thought it was Spanish for "The Driver." Hence, Elle. Like the letter L.
ANYWAY.
Once again, not much thought, except that if possible, I wanted to not just list what you guys listed except where I could help it.
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5. King Arthur Vs. The Black Knight -
Monty Python & The Holy Grail
"Your arm's come of!"
"No it hasn't!"
'Nuff said.
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4. The Bride Vs. The Crazy 88's - Kill Bill Vol. 1
It homages the best from a shit load of other films and mashes it up in into a smorgasbord of bloody brilliance. Good job Quentin. Good Job Zoe. Good job Uma. Good job Gordon Lu. Good job Cast & Crew. Good-fucking-job. It took 55 days to shoot, and they knocked it out of the park.
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3. Mr. Parker & Mr. Longbaugh Vs. the Bagmen - Way of the Gun
Self explanatory. No need for comment. If you don't know why this scene is awesome then you obviously don't have eyes or an awesome-detector.
Get both pronto and watch this scene.
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2. Neo & Trinity Vs. A Lobby - The Matrix
Yup. There it is.
AND!!!!
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1. Cloud Vs. Sephiroth - FFVII:Advent Children
As cool as the Matrix's lobby scene was, nobody in that scene clashed swords while standing on two seperate pieces of falling, burning broken building. And Cloud has Seven swords that turn into one big one. AND 'One-Winged Angel' plays in the background throughout the duration of the fight, which is one of the best compositions Nobuo Uematsu has ever contributed to video games and film. IMPORTANT MUSIC! PAY ATTENTION. Except not cliched.
Eat it, Neo.
That's all, FOLKS!
OOH! I just had an idea!
ReplyDeleteYou guys should make a list of the MOST DISAPPOINTING fight scenes.
Now that would be entertaining!
Everyone gets disappointed by different things, so there would rarely be any overlapping.
And there have been SO MANY bad fight scenes in movies.
Huh? HUH? What do you think?
2 things.
ReplyDelete1.I agree about the marker thing. that is a really good idea. we shall impliment it as soon as spoil other crap
2. Thats a good idea for a list and we are always looking for list ideas.
Oh and its good to hear what you had to say again!
Welcome back to the comments, Karl. I'm both surprised and delighted that there are so many similarities between your Top 5 list and those amassed by Jesse and myself. I'm not that big of a Final Fantasy VII fan, but I do feel as though I need to watch Advent Children again. The only time I've seen was via a bootleg copy played in the computer lab of the Kubert School by one of our classmates prior to it's release.
ReplyDeleteAs for the time marker idea, I've considered adding them before, but have never gone through with it since the format of our "show notes" is sort of jumbled and random. I'll toy with the idea some more, though. I enjoy how Jesse says "we shall impliment it" when he surely means "Rian shall implement it", since I'm always the one writing the notes and posts for the blog.
Also, I like the Hulk dogs.