Episode 219 Topics Include:
- JLA vs. The Avengers
- Comics and car trouble
- What Rian has been reading & watching
- Featured Review: Batman And Robin
Running Time: 1 hour, 13 minutes
Episode Songs:
Make Em Say Ugh - Master P
This Podcast May Include Some Explicit Language
...It Also Most Likely Contains Some Spoilers
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i personally group Batman & Robin with those bad movies that are boring, to me that is its biggest sin and the worst sin of any bad movie. and this is coming from a guy who loves bad movies often more than good ones, and i can barely stand B&R.
ReplyDeletei don't even care about the stupid nonsensical stuff like Alfred having made Batgirl a costume somehow or the password stuff or the Bat-credit card or the ass shots, that stuff COULD have been funny or entertaining in a so-bad-it's-good way, but somehow it's not. even the absolute worst most incompetent most incomprehensible movies like Manos the Hands of Fate or even singularities of soulless awfulness like Garbage Pail Kids or trainwrecks of incompetence like Battlefield Earth, those still have some kind of human touch or organic accessibility, while B&R feels like it it has zero human fingerprints on it, it seems like it was made by a film-making computer algorithm trying to approximate entertainment but coming up with some kind of weird cinematic uncanny valley.
B&R does almost cross into being fascinating to me by how boring it is despite having all so much spectacle and bombast, like how the hell did this happen? how did somebody come up with this? it is worth at least one watch, i believe, because it's similar to Garbage Pail Kids or Mac & Me where it could be considered a once in a lifetime bad movie.
I totally agree. I just don't understand it. How can you create something or be a part of it without seeing what a disaster it is.
DeleteIt's weird.
yeah, it's mind-boggling. not just that Schumacher didn't see it, he was probably way too in it to really know what he had, but it's nuts that nobody ELSE saw what a mess it was, out of all the execs and bigwigs at WB and people the film had to pass through. it's also nuts how the movie takes actors that are usually charming and fun and makes them boring. like this has got to be Arnold's worst performance, he's barely fun and appealing in this, and i don't know how the hell you make Arnold not fun to watch (and this is coming from somebody who thinks one of Arnold's best movies is Junior). same with Uma Thurman and Alicia Silverstone, who just a few years earlier was amazing and funny in Clueless. here she's just a confusing zombie, haha. same with John Glover, how the hell do you make that guy not entertaining?? it's like the movie sucked the life out of everyone!
Deletei read someplace that on the B&R dvd commentary, Schumacher apologizes for the movie and how bad it is, so of course i had to hear that and rented it on Netflix but the edition of the disc they had doesn't have the commentary!! T_T i'm sure as hell not gonna buy the right edition just to hear that, though, heh.
i do like all the neon, though, i'll stick up for that part. i like that aesthetic a lot, i'd love to see a good superhero movie with that same look.
I appreciate how bad Batman And Robin is...I really do...but please tell me you weren't insinuating that Manos is in ANY way better than Batman And Robin. MST3K notwithstanding, Manos is such a terrible mess that I feel it can hardly be called a movie.
DeleteI think the reason we have Batman And Robin is because Batman Forever performed well. That movie made $184,031,112 domestically. I know it's not as bad as Batman And Robin, but I'd be more inclined to wonder how the studio let Batman Forever happen. By the time Batman And Robin rolled around, they probably just thought "Batman Forever did well, so Schumacher must be doing something right...let him do his thing."
Am I alone in saying that I was totally charmed by Arnold as he lay there having a sentimental moment with Batman about the cure for Alfred's disease? I agree that he was far less charismatic than he usually is for most of the movie, but in that moment I felt the true Schwarzenegger charm working it's magic on me.