9.16.2011

The Sidetracked Podcast Episode 177 - Cautiously Middle Of The Road

Episode 177 Topics Include:
- SPX 2011
- The DC New 52: Weeks 2 & 3
- What Rian's been watching
- This week in trailers: Premium Rush, The Thing
- Featured Review: Cronos

Running Time: 1 hour, 24 minutes

Episode Songs:
What More Can I Say - Jay-Z/The Beatles

This Podcast May Include Some Explicit Language

...It Also Most Likely Contains Some Spoilers

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14 comments:

  1. Huh...this episode accidentally went up a day early. I was going to take it down and re-schedule it for Sunday, but instead I'll just let it fly and blame the mistake on Jesse.

    Oh, and I'm aware that I said "Donald Duck" when I meant to say "Daffy Duck" about 20 times during the What We Watched segment. No need to call me out on that.

    Move along. Nothing to see here...

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  2. another mistake is you said Joe Casey did I Kill Giants instead of Joe Kelly! ;)

    man i'm sad to hear about Action Comics #1. i didn't read it and didn't have it on my pull list, but it sounded kinda cool, i like the idea of a kind of reckless socialist Superman, but it sucks to hear you weren't into it, Jesse. a couple of my favorite reviewers didn't like it either, d'oh.

    i thought Batwoman was great too. it took me 2 read-throughs to "get" it, i had trouble with who some of the characters were and i didn't remember much of what happened in the Rucka run. i was mostly going to read it just because my friend Amy is drawing some of the later arcs, but i'm looking forward to sticking with the series.

    i picked up Becky's Wolves back in May at TCAF, definitely awesome. she does get the best printing, i don't know where she goes to get her books done. she sells a ton of stuff, i think she mentioned that the initial batch of online Wolves orders was over 300. dang.

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  3. Man, I couldn't get anything right on this episode!

    I was wondering if Amy was going to do any more work on Batwoman after that #0 issue. She seems like she'll be a pretty good fit for the book.

    I know the company that printed Man-Gull and Forever Winter provides a lot of printing different printing options, and I'm honestly looking forward to exploring some different styles and whatnot in the future. The cover to Becky's book was really impressive. I know she got it silk-screened, but I still don't really know what that means. Regardless, Wolves looks badass.

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  4. [don't think my first message posted...]

    All around awesome show guys!

    Are we going to see Jesse and Broken Legacy debut at Boston Con?! Just putting it out there...

    Thought the Man-Gull printing looking awesome. I was wide-eyed seeing my pin-up in great quality print.

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  5. Thanks, Nico.

    The tough thing about getting us all together at a show is the cost. Between round trip tickets, printing comics, shipping boxes of books and art and such back and forth, reserving table space, and general expenses such as food, it would be pretty pricey to do a show on the opposite side of the country. We've talked about it. When we finish Broken Legacy #1 I'd like to do a show with Jesse, be it out here or on the West coast, but right now there are no absolute plans for this type of event. Presumably, when we're closer to finishing the issue we'll come to some kind of decision and make an announcement, so until then just keep crossing your fingers for us.

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  6. No, I totally understand trying to at least break even. I thought Jesse said it perfectly something to the effect of "let's focus on finishing issue one first." Good luck!

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  7. @Rian: where did you print Man-Gull? i use comixpress and they're pretty good if a little slow. i always mean to try out other places but i'm always scrambling for time when i do a print run of something so i never have time to explore. i thought Man-Gull's printing was solid.

    i finally watched the Thing prequel trailer! it looks pretty much what i expected, although some of the monstery forms look okay i guess, if a little video-gamey, like something out of Parasite Eve. i read somewhere that the monsters were mostly practical at first but the production decided it looked terrible and replaced all the practical effects with CGI in post. :\

    i love the The Thing but i'm really ambivalent about this new one, it's hardly even on my radar, i'm just not invested. it's not the quite the same scenario but with all your concerns about the creature's behavior and stuff, now you know kind of how i feel with changes to the alien from Alien to Aliens! not to stir all that up again or anything, of course. ;)

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  8. Next pay day I'm ordering Wolves!

    I'm not sure about a release date for Broken Legacy yet and sont want to announce anything until it's close to the release and I think if I premiered it at a con I'd do something more local like Emerald City. We shall see though.

    And I just want to thank you guys for listening and commenting, it really feels good to know that at least a few people listen to us two idiots!

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  9. @Ross

    Joel and I printed our books with a company called RA Comics Direct. Their claim to fame is that they will print your book in 4 days or less, guaranteed. I got my books about 7 days after I ordered them, which was necessary since I procrastinated so much and had to work right down to the wire. They do really good work and have good customer service and lots of paper/printing options. I've never been crazy about Kablam and have heard some horror stories from a few people about Comixpress, so RA seemed like the way to go, and I'm very happy with the outcome.

    Not to get too much into the Alien debate again, but here are a few points:

    1.) I'm sure I've told you this, but I watched Alien and Aliens back to back when I first saw them at the age of 7. Because of this, I never felt a major change in the creature because no real time elapsed between my viewings. I didn't have a concept of the Alien from the first film in my mind of years before seeing the second film, or vice-a-versa. If I had seen them years apart, I might feel differently than I do.

    2.) The fact that this new Thing movie is a prequel makes it harder for me to buy the changes they're seemingly making. This is the same feeling I have about the inevitable changes/reveals of new information we're going to see concerning the Aliens and/or Space Jockey in Prometheus. I hate that they're almost ret-conning their properties in both of these cases.

    3.) The change from practical effects to CG with this Thing prequel is a bit more drastic than the change from one man-in-suit creature to another very similar man-in-suit creature between Alien and Aliens.

    On another note, if what you say about the Thing prequel originally using lots of practical effects is true, I hope that stuff sees the light of day on a Blu-ray release. Then again, I hope the movie is good enough that I'd be willing to buy it on Blu-ray, which may be a stretch.

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  10. i gotta look up RA Comics Direct. dang, 4 days!!! that's amazing. i could really use a turnaround like that. maybe i'd actually get Mountain Girl comics by NYCC. hmph.

    i was mostly yankin' your chain with the Alien/Aliens thing, bwahaha. ;) i actually saw Aliens before Alien when i was little, so i don't know what happened, i'm not sure why i latched onto Alien despite having a different version of the creature shown to me first. i think the two versions of the creature are still pretty incongruous depending on how you look at it, they almost behave like two totally different monsters. which is also cool, though, because who would want the same shit in the first movie rehashed a second time. and the way the Alien is portrayed in the first movie would never fit in Aliens and vice versa.

    a better comparison would be if somehow Aliens and Alien 3 never happened and we went from Alien to Alien Resurrection. definitely a way bigger jump, i know what you mean.

    i think another difference, picking apart my own comparison here, heh, is that Aliens goes in a totally different direction, different creatures, different setting, different sorts of characters, different plot, so it all fits because it's not the same scenario as Alien. but the new Thing prequel IS the same scenario as the Carpenter Thing, it's the same setting, same sort of characters, ostensibly the same monster, same storyline, so it comes off like it's trying to position itself the same way as the 1982 Thing except it's got a shitty CGI Parasite Eve Silent Hill version of the Thing so it sticks out like a sore crappy thumb.

    the post that had the Thing trailer (i think on Badass Digest) i think mentioned that the original effects were done by Alec Gillis and Tom Woodruff, who you probably know worked on Aliens, Alien 3, and a bunch of other stuff and did awful redesigns of the Alien but that's another matter. ;) but yeah, they're total practical effects guys, so i wonder what happened there. weird.

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  11. Woodruff and Gillis (or maybe only one of them?) did the effects and such on Tremors, too. Their Alien designs aren't good, but I still like those guys. It's a shame they're all up on the AVP movies. Definitely knocks them down a notch.

    As for what you were saying about The Thing, imagine if someone remade Alien with very similar sets to the Nostromo and everything, but the Alien was CG. That would fucking suck, and it's exactly what's happening to The Thing.

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  12. oh yeah, Tremors, good call. they definitely do good stuff.

    who's directing your theoretical Alien remake? that's the question.

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  13. Well, if we're comparing the scenario to The Thing prequel situation, it'd be someone you've never heard of. Mathis J Something-or-other is directing The Thing, which inspires no confidence in me.

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  14. yeah, then forget it!!! i was hoping maybe David Lynch or Shinya Tsukamoto or Bong Joon-ho or somebody would direct it, haha.

    i would definitely be interested in an Alien remake, as in i would totally be following the news about it and stuff, but i doubt i'd get off my ass and go see it in theater. unless Devin Faraci wrote a positive review, heh. maybe i'd be all angry, i don't know, tough to say until it happens, but i just can't see myself caring that much. especially with Alien, it's my favorite movie ever but things for that property seriously cannot get worse in my opinion and i've resigned myself to that, regardless of 15 more AVP movies or a CGI video gamey remake. what's one more shitfest, you know?

    they've already remade two of my favorite movies of all time, Dawn of the Dead and It's Alive, making them all glossy and shitty, but they're totally a faded memory so whatever, that kind of thing just doesn't rile me up because the new versions are more often just boring and i forget about them immediately. i was actually pumped for the It's Alive remake but man was it awful.

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